1 00:00:04,039 --> 00:00:02,000 you are listening to inception Radio 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:04,049 Network voice of the fringe majority 3 00:00:09,620 --> 00:00:06,569 it's the weekend and have you got a 4 00:00:11,839 --> 00:00:09,630 special weekend edition for you we're 5 00:00:15,799 --> 00:00:11,849 here today with an interview with Jesse 6 00:00:19,010 --> 00:00:15,809 yourself Jesse are you there I am here 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:19,020 and first in case our listeners aren't 8 00:00:25,700 --> 00:00:22,410 aware it's a famous name and three times 9 00:00:29,150 --> 00:00:25,710 a famous name so why don't you for 10 00:00:31,220 --> 00:00:29,160 people who aren't aware just get us into 11 00:00:33,020 --> 00:00:31,230 a little bit of Roswell although it's 12 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:33,030 hard to imagine that many of our gentle 13 00:00:38,270 --> 00:00:35,910 listeners aren't aware so take it Jesse 14 00:00:42,110 --> 00:00:38,280 Marcel okay I guess I could start with 15 00:00:45,380 --> 00:00:42,120 my grandfather was the lead or head 16 00:00:48,069 --> 00:00:45,390 investigator into the crash of something 17 00:00:51,529 --> 00:00:48,079 in the Roswell deserts back in 1947 and 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:51,539 his name was major Jesse Marcel and that 19 00:00:57,770 --> 00:00:53,730 puts me down the line with his namesake 20 00:00:59,119 --> 00:00:57,780 as Jesse Marcel I am the third and so I 21 00:01:02,389 --> 00:00:59,129 had learned and grew up with a story 22 00:01:04,250 --> 00:01:02,399 from pretty much an infant state and I'm 23 00:01:06,590 --> 00:01:04,260 always learning actually things are 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:06,600 always changing they are changing and 25 00:01:12,230 --> 00:01:09,810 it's it's interesting how something that 26 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:12,240 maybe a lot of listeners aren't aware of 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:15,960 the story the event took place in 1947 28 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:18,930 but after the initial hubbub wore down 29 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:22,080 it was or was taken away move along 30 00:01:29,420 --> 00:01:25,110 folks nothing to see here it sort of was 31 00:01:33,819 --> 00:01:29,430 dormant until the late 1970s yes well 32 00:01:36,890 --> 00:01:33,829 basically my grandfather went into his 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:36,900 basically his role with the military and 34 00:01:44,359 --> 00:01:39,570 that was nothing to see here 35 00:01:46,999 --> 00:01:44,369 basically it was to go ahead and put it 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:47,009 in perspective of what the military and 37 00:01:52,039 --> 00:01:49,890 the government wanted to believe in the 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:52,049 story is the ones were circulating when 39 00:01:56,810 --> 00:01:54,450 it was there ones were created and he 40 00:02:00,249 --> 00:01:56,820 went along with that line and didn't 41 00:02:03,889 --> 00:02:00,259 talk about it until the seventies yes 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:03,899 interesting and but he did talk about it 43 00:02:07,789 --> 00:02:04,850 at home 44 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:07,799 yes well my grandfather they they they 45 00:02:12,350 --> 00:02:10,560 were in Houma Louisiana and I grew up in 46 00:02:16,130 --> 00:02:12,360 a little town called Helena Montana 47 00:02:18,890 --> 00:02:16,140 and yes the I first learned about the 48 00:02:21,140 --> 00:02:18,900 story through the family mostly through 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:21,150 my father who was a doctor Jesse Marcel 50 00:02:29,270 --> 00:02:26,010 and we had originally talked about it it 51 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:29,280 kind of it came up when we were out 52 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:31,650 store outside stargazing that sort of 53 00:02:38,449 --> 00:02:35,040 thing and and he he he taught us for a 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:38,459 very young age to be very open minded 55 00:02:43,430 --> 00:02:40,530 don't be boxed in on what society might 56 00:02:45,050 --> 00:02:43,440 tell you or or whatever somebody else's 57 00:02:46,970 --> 00:02:45,060 place might be it's basically you need 58 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:46,980 to go out and figure this out for 59 00:02:51,860 --> 00:02:49,680 yourself and it was kind of an open door 60 00:02:54,229 --> 00:02:51,870 to look into the heavens and perhaps 61 00:02:55,850 --> 00:02:54,239 there's something else out there that's 62 00:02:58,790 --> 00:02:55,860 paying attention to what we're doing 63 00:03:02,000 --> 00:02:58,800 down here that's a fascinating concept 64 00:03:03,890 --> 00:03:02,010 and the fact that you guys you this was 65 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:03,900 you know this was in your morning orange 66 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:06,720 juice so to speak it was it was the 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:10,530 ability to know the facts probably I'm 68 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:11,970 guessing learn the Stars and the planets 69 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:14,610 the constellations and so that you know 70 00:03:19,009 --> 00:03:16,290 by process of elimination you know 71 00:03:21,710 --> 00:03:19,019 what's what you're looking at it belongs 72 00:03:23,449 --> 00:03:21,720 there or doesn't belong there and also 73 00:03:26,620 --> 00:03:23,459 the concept of something greater 74 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:26,630 something off planet extraterrestrials 75 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:28,650 absolutely you know I always like to 76 00:03:33,259 --> 00:03:30,450 tell the story about how we'd sit around 77 00:03:34,460 --> 00:03:33,269 at dinner and have Star Trek playing at 78 00:03:38,539 --> 00:03:34,470 the end of the table and we'd be 79 00:03:41,060 --> 00:03:38,549 conversing about Roswell of course yes a 80 00:03:45,050 --> 00:03:41,070 new Star Trek was a a sci-fi show but it 81 00:03:47,930 --> 00:03:45,060 kind of set the mood I suppose like just 82 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:47,940 like I said before it's I grew up with a 83 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:49,290 very comforting feeling that there was 84 00:03:54,170 --> 00:03:52,530 another boy sitting at a table on some 85 00:03:56,539 --> 00:03:54,180 other planet with their family enjoying 86 00:03:59,350 --> 00:03:56,549 dinner as well and it was always it's 87 00:04:01,430 --> 00:03:59,360 always been a very comforting very open 88 00:04:04,190 --> 00:04:01,440 anything something to be very positive 89 00:04:05,570 --> 00:04:04,200 about we you don't know that everything 90 00:04:06,770 --> 00:04:05,580 that happened to our family and you know 91 00:04:08,900 --> 00:04:06,780 there are some things that weren't we're 92 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:08,910 kind of ugly but from outside influences 93 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:11,040 but for the most part it was it was a 94 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:14,850 very very positive and open way to grow 95 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:17,600 up is in fact I'm very proud of it and 96 00:04:25,780 --> 00:04:21,810 and I think my family is too oh I am 97 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:25,790 sure on every plane of where they may be 98 00:04:31,150 --> 00:04:28,250 and it's interesting the these negative 99 00:04:34,690 --> 00:04:31,160 outside influences are you comfortable 100 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:34,700 talking about that well yeah the world's 101 00:04:40,810 --> 00:04:37,610 evolves it is this this was more back in 102 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:40,820 the early 90s the it used to be more 103 00:04:44,470 --> 00:04:42,710 alone Alliance if you can't disprove 104 00:04:47,140 --> 00:04:44,480 something then you attack the individual 105 00:04:49,630 --> 00:04:47,150 and that was going on and it wasn't so 106 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:49,640 much it wasn't really against me it was 107 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:51,890 you know at that time obviously my 108 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:53,090 father was still alive he was a 109 00:04:59,500 --> 00:04:55,610 spotlight and he'd be attacked every so 110 00:05:01,870 --> 00:04:59,510 often but his is almost beyond reproach 111 00:05:04,630 --> 00:05:01,880 you know they they went down to the 112 00:05:06,460 --> 00:05:04,640 point of trying to say well he was a 113 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:06,470 motorcycle rider well you know he was 114 00:05:13,270 --> 00:05:11,600 yeah he liked to climb mountains so 115 00:05:14,620 --> 00:05:13,280 those are the kind of things they said 116 00:05:18,610 --> 00:05:14,630 well how can you believe in someone it's 117 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:18,620 like this and it is but that that's as 118 00:05:23,070 --> 00:05:20,000 far as they could stretch it just shows 119 00:05:26,260 --> 00:05:23,080 you a lot that yes those kind of things 120 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:26,270 and it shows a lot of your father's 121 00:05:31,540 --> 00:05:30,080 incredible integrity the fact that he 122 00:05:34,060 --> 00:05:31,550 re-enlisted 123 00:05:37,750 --> 00:05:34,070 during the Vietnam War what are those 124 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:37,760 facts he he pretty much never left the 125 00:05:45,510 --> 00:05:42,080 military when he joined he went into the 126 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Navy originally I went to school LSU and 127 00:05:51,610 --> 00:05:48,770 pretty much never stopped either was 128 00:05:54,190 --> 00:05:51,620 either full time or you know doing 129 00:05:58,060 --> 00:05:54,200 basically the you know the weekend kind 130 00:06:01,450 --> 00:05:58,070 of thing his duties in the Navy Jesse a 131 00:06:03,370 --> 00:06:01,460 medical doctor right that's that's what 132 00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:03,380 yes flight surgeon did that that is that 133 00:06:06,910 --> 00:06:05,360 correct well yes she only became a 134 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:06,920 flight surgeon much later in life but he 135 00:06:10,630 --> 00:06:09,410 started working in medicine yeah I 136 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:10,640 honestly I don't know you're working on 137 00:06:14,110 --> 00:06:12,010 ships and that kind of thing and doing 138 00:06:15,090 --> 00:06:14,120 physicals and treating people and that 139 00:06:21,310 --> 00:06:15,100 sort of thing 140 00:06:23,860 --> 00:06:21,320 interesting and just like later later in 141 00:06:24,670 --> 00:06:23,870 life he joined it interesting enough out 142 00:06:26,830 --> 00:06:24,680 of hello I know there was something 143 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:26,840 colon attack battalion which is kind of 144 00:06:30,430 --> 00:06:28,730 a army kind of Air Force it wasn't an 145 00:06:32,620 --> 00:06:30,440 exact designation it I suppose be close 146 00:06:33,850 --> 00:06:32,630 to army if you put it that way and it 147 00:06:36,910 --> 00:06:33,860 gave him a chance to go fly helicopters 148 00:06:39,460 --> 00:06:36,920 so you'd learn to become a pilot just 149 00:06:42,790 --> 00:06:39,470 loved it and he get a count of god back 150 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:42,800 to it more in that direction and yeah 151 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:44,450 like I said he loved it he loved a 152 00:06:51,930 --> 00:06:47,440 service country he was the oldest 153 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:55,420 that's right post-vietnam way post yeah 154 00:07:00,220 --> 00:06:58,490 and and that's a major point in spite of 155 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:00,230 all you know shall we say slings and 156 00:07:04,750 --> 00:07:02,210 arrows hurled in his direction and 157 00:07:08,890 --> 00:07:04,760 sometimes by perhaps unnamed military 158 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:08,900 people he persisted what a patriot yeah 159 00:07:13,180 --> 00:07:11,810 I mean his thing was you know he was at 160 00:07:15,130 --> 00:07:13,190 the time he went to Iraq I mean his 161 00:07:17,260 --> 00:07:15,140 story was pretty simple it's like you 162 00:07:18,940 --> 00:07:17,270 know I'm 72 years old if I can go over 163 00:07:20,830 --> 00:07:18,950 here and keep some young kid from coming 164 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:20,840 over here I'm gonna do it so I mean 165 00:07:24,580 --> 00:07:23,090 literally that's that's that's that kind 166 00:07:27,970 --> 00:07:24,590 of sums up my father and a sentence or 167 00:07:30,430 --> 00:07:27,980 two fantastic now back to Roswell 168 00:07:33,250 --> 00:07:30,440 your father was how old I've read 169 00:07:35,350 --> 00:07:33,260 everything between 9:00 to 12:00 when he 170 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:35,360 was awakened in the middle of the night 171 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:38,510 by his father yeah 11 turning 12 and 172 00:07:46,630 --> 00:07:43,130 yeah he was he was at home asleep his 173 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:46,640 mother in Roswell New Mexico and his 174 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:49,520 father my grandfather I had just been 175 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:52,250 tasked the duty to go out and check on 176 00:07:57,250 --> 00:07:53,930 something that crashed out in the fields 177 00:07:58,540 --> 00:07:57,260 out in the desert and it was significant 178 00:08:00,460 --> 00:07:58,550 enough that they wanted to send their 179 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:00,470 top basically intelligence officer out 180 00:08:06,250 --> 00:08:02,210 there because they didn't know what this 181 00:08:08,740 --> 00:08:06,260 thing was they'd they had the person 182 00:08:11,350 --> 00:08:08,750 that had brought it back Mac Brazel had 183 00:08:12,820 --> 00:08:11,360 had discovered it brought some parts 184 00:08:15,190 --> 00:08:12,830 eventually admitted and made it back to 185 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:15,200 a sheriff in Roswell they couldn't make 186 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:18,770 heads or tails and it's and it my 187 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:20,090 grandfather went took a look at those 188 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:21,650 pieces couldn't make heads or tails of 189 00:08:25,390 --> 00:08:23,930 it so they got a couple of jeeps the 190 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:25,400 dist information officer and headed out 191 00:08:32,529 --> 00:08:28,090 to the field and when he was out there 192 00:08:35,290 --> 00:08:32,539 he he was able to ascertain that what he 193 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:35,300 was looking at is he would always say or 194 00:08:39,300 --> 00:08:37,370 I'll said originally that whatever this 195 00:08:41,620 --> 00:08:39,310 was it was not made by human hands and 196 00:08:45,550 --> 00:08:41,630 he's stuck with that from that day back 197 00:08:48,130 --> 00:08:45,560 in 1947 through his passing but he knew 198 00:08:50,949 --> 00:08:48,140 enough about what would happen it was a 199 00:08:52,340 --> 00:08:50,959 very significant event that whatever 200 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:52,350 this stuff was that 201 00:08:59,420 --> 00:08:56,250 it would be absorbed in the military 202 00:09:00,770 --> 00:08:59,430 quite quickly and he thought that it was 203 00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:00,780 important enough for him to break 204 00:09:05,900 --> 00:09:02,640 protocol yeah you know literally break 205 00:09:08,630 --> 00:09:05,910 brick you know break his orders yes home 206 00:09:12,170 --> 00:09:08,640 and show his son and his wife very 207 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:12,180 telling it is he wasn't the kind of you 208 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:14,130 know yeah how was didn't read it reaches 209 00:09:19,370 --> 00:09:17,130 position for stepping out of line like 210 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:19,380 that right it wasn't in his nature to go 211 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:20,070 rogue 212 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:23,010 no no it's basically he he was trusted 213 00:09:26,390 --> 00:09:24,510 with the secrets of our nuclear bombing 214 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:26,400 program you know he was a top 215 00:09:30,020 --> 00:09:28,110 intelligence officer involved in the you 216 00:09:32,570 --> 00:09:30,030 know what at that time in the early 217 00:09:35,870 --> 00:09:32,580 forties you know he he was even involved 218 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:35,880 in in tasking the the flight crews of 219 00:09:39,290 --> 00:09:36,930 the Boxcar about where they're gonna 220 00:09:41,450 --> 00:09:39,300 drop the bomb you know he was you know 221 00:09:42,890 --> 00:09:41,460 at the highest level the highest trust 222 00:09:45,590 --> 00:09:42,900 of the military and our government to do 223 00:09:48,050 --> 00:09:45,600 that and he stepped out of line so he 224 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:48,060 could show his son and his wife that 225 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:49,770 whatever this was that it's very 226 00:09:54,290 --> 00:09:52,080 significant and perhaps you know in our 227 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:54,300 humanity and that was more important to 228 00:09:58,580 --> 00:09:56,130 him than the possible repercussions of 229 00:10:01,450 --> 00:09:58,590 that sort of action and that speaks 230 00:10:03,890 --> 00:10:01,460 volumes yes he is some some some 231 00:10:06,350 --> 00:10:03,900 deep-seated feeling that he had that 232 00:10:09,170 --> 00:10:06,360 this was something definitely as you 233 00:10:10,850 --> 00:10:09,180 said significant right yeah he'd bring 234 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:10,860 it home but he brought home a box of 235 00:10:14,540 --> 00:10:12,930 materials and spread it out over the 236 00:10:16,730 --> 00:10:14,550 kitchen floor and and woke up his son 237 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:16,740 and wife and had them take a look at 238 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:19,530 look at it and and said you know 239 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:21,210 whatever the stuff is it's you know he 240 00:10:25,340 --> 00:10:23,610 he absolutely believed that it was part 241 00:10:28,130 --> 00:10:25,350 of some kind of a UFO some kind of a 242 00:10:30,890 --> 00:10:28,140 spacecraft yes then there's that iconic 243 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:30,900 photo later in a different situation of 244 00:10:34,730 --> 00:10:32,730 your father holding the material are you 245 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:34,740 grant yes you're your grandfather yes my 246 00:10:41,230 --> 00:10:37,710 grandfather yeah he actually for a 247 00:10:44,180 --> 00:10:41,240 moment thought that perhaps this debris 248 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:44,190 it that would made it to the mates at 249 00:10:47,900 --> 00:10:46,710 office basically that they were going to 250 00:10:50,510 --> 00:10:47,910 come out and talk about it and which 251 00:10:51,770 --> 00:10:50,520 really surprised him and when he walked 252 00:10:54,140 --> 00:10:51,780 into the room he realized that that 253 00:10:56,210 --> 00:10:54,150 wasn't the truth that there was pre 254 00:10:58,430 --> 00:10:56,220 placed items that there was parts of 255 00:11:00,650 --> 00:10:58,440 what was called a Rowand target sitting 256 00:11:02,660 --> 00:11:00,660 on the floor and he was told to go ahead 257 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:02,670 and you know smile and take some 258 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:04,770 pictures with it and he basically knew 259 00:11:08,330 --> 00:11:06,000 at that point that things were 260 00:11:09,590 --> 00:11:08,340 where he expected him to go you have 261 00:11:10,700 --> 00:11:09,600 nothing he was happy about it but he 262 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:10,710 pretty much knew that was going to 263 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:11,610 happen I thought that was gonna happen 264 00:11:17,030 --> 00:11:13,890 yes and and of course it is bad 265 00:11:19,700 --> 00:11:17,040 forensics but going into the look 266 00:11:22,460 --> 00:11:19,710 looking at viewing at your grandfather's 267 00:11:24,830 --> 00:11:22,470 expression in that photograph knowing 268 00:11:27,890 --> 00:11:24,840 what we kind of know now you can almost 269 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:27,900 see it in his eyes yes you know what's 270 00:11:31,790 --> 00:11:30,330 interesting about it is that and my 271 00:11:33,830 --> 00:11:31,800 sister Denise picked us up I never did 272 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:33,840 that but that you look at him he's never 273 00:11:39,410 --> 00:11:36,570 looking at the camera somebody yelling 274 00:11:44,050 --> 00:11:39,420 at him to barking at him too you know 275 00:11:49,550 --> 00:11:46,730 interesting even though we did have film 276 00:11:52,010 --> 00:11:49,560 and film footage was shown during news 277 00:11:55,010 --> 00:11:52,020 broadcasts at the time this was without 278 00:11:57,770 --> 00:11:55,020 any video that I'm aware of and so 279 00:12:00,260 --> 00:11:57,780 certainly no audio so yes he could they 280 00:12:03,310 --> 00:12:00,270 could have been definitely calling out 281 00:12:07,580 --> 00:12:03,320 directions to him for a staged event 282 00:12:09,620 --> 00:12:07,590 yeah that's not comfy but but sort of 283 00:12:13,579 --> 00:12:09,630 goes with the territory I guess we can 284 00:12:15,710 --> 00:12:13,589 say and now what would you say how how 285 00:12:18,140 --> 00:12:15,720 do you I'm sure this must have come in 286 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:18,150 your direction at some event or another 287 00:12:24,470 --> 00:12:22,530 how how do you fend off those who say 288 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:24,480 that the entire thing was disinformation 289 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:29,040 that it was all not a UFO but rather 290 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:32,490 some unsavory project that spun out of 291 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:36,210 post-world War two something to do with 292 00:12:42,650 --> 00:12:39,210 using humans in balloon how do you shoot 293 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:42,660 that down you know what I usually don't 294 00:12:48,410 --> 00:12:47,010 honestly I I basically you know I'm 295 00:12:49,730 --> 00:12:48,420 always willing to listen to somebody if 296 00:12:53,329 --> 00:12:49,740 they have a different opinion or a 297 00:12:55,370 --> 00:12:53,339 different idea you know I I'm usually 298 00:12:57,980 --> 00:12:55,380 quick to say that those don't really 299 00:12:59,510 --> 00:12:57,990 line up with the way I understand it and 300 00:13:00,680 --> 00:12:59,520 the way I've been told about it and the 301 00:13:02,660 --> 00:13:00,690 way it's been carried through our family 302 00:13:04,910 --> 00:13:02,670 you know I'm obviously a little bit 303 00:13:07,850 --> 00:13:04,920 prejudiced in my views I grew up with a 304 00:13:09,860 --> 00:13:07,860 story grew up III went fishing with my 305 00:13:12,470 --> 00:13:09,870 grandfather we talked about it in his 306 00:13:14,270 --> 00:13:12,480 home in Louisiana we we grew up with my 307 00:13:16,430 --> 00:13:14,280 father spent his life looking to the 308 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:16,440 stars for answers you know those sort of 309 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:19,410 things it's like and just just 310 00:13:24,769 --> 00:13:22,889 you know it's a simple fact that a 311 00:13:27,769 --> 00:13:24,779 grandfather and father went to their 312 00:13:29,869 --> 00:13:27,779 graves with the story and just and just 313 00:13:32,889 --> 00:13:29,879 the idea that they would you know my 314 00:13:34,969 --> 00:13:32,899 grandfather would would basically 315 00:13:35,479 --> 00:13:34,979 misinforming shoulder in their entire 316 00:13:37,879 --> 00:13:35,489 lives 317 00:13:39,259 --> 00:13:37,889 a father who devoted his life it was a 318 00:13:43,789 --> 00:13:39,269 medical doctor he's also a very 319 00:13:46,669 --> 00:13:43,799 brilliant man physicist and and it just 320 00:13:50,299 --> 00:13:46,679 it just doesn't really add up that these 321 00:13:52,609 --> 00:13:50,309 brilliant men were so far off and that 322 00:13:54,589 --> 00:13:52,619 you know they they had enough going on 323 00:13:57,439 --> 00:13:54,599 in life my grandfather had a very 324 00:13:58,969 --> 00:13:57,449 interesting life with with the things he 325 00:14:00,079 --> 00:13:58,979 was part of with the things he did not 326 00:14:01,429 --> 00:14:00,089 that he was hopefully proud of 327 00:14:04,519 --> 00:14:01,439 everything he did but he did you know 328 00:14:06,079 --> 00:14:04,529 you're supposed to do but he have all 329 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:06,089 these things and you throw this and 330 00:14:10,549 --> 00:14:08,399 there it's just it it simply doesn't 331 00:14:13,489 --> 00:14:10,559 line up the only way another story would 332 00:14:16,339 --> 00:14:13,499 work is that either my grandfather and 333 00:14:19,460 --> 00:14:16,349 father for some reason this one part of 334 00:14:21,710 --> 00:14:19,470 their life was completely falsified and 335 00:14:24,139 --> 00:14:21,720 it was some huge conspiracy of some kind 336 00:14:27,739 --> 00:14:24,149 mmm or you know that at the very least 337 00:14:29,599 --> 00:14:27,749 they believed to the end that this was 338 00:14:32,989 --> 00:14:29,609 something from somewhere else and of 339 00:14:35,899 --> 00:14:32,999 course I do too interesting oh yes 340 00:14:37,849 --> 00:14:35,909 definitely and it's it's so it's 341 00:14:42,049 --> 00:14:37,859 wonderful you have this legacy to pursue 342 00:14:44,779 --> 00:14:42,059 and and fact-finding fact-checking etc 343 00:14:47,449 --> 00:14:44,789 in the day of foe news that's very vital 344 00:14:52,219 --> 00:14:47,459 do you have Jesse do you have a takeaway 345 00:14:55,009 --> 00:14:52,229 one specific anecdote that you would put 346 00:14:57,499 --> 00:14:55,019 out there as the smoking gun shall we 347 00:14:59,479 --> 00:14:57,509 say that your grandfather and father 348 00:15:01,609 --> 00:14:59,489 believe all right 349 00:15:03,379 --> 00:15:01,619 this is Maury Moreland Morrison here to 350 00:15:06,019 --> 00:15:03,389 tell you guy Co has more than just great 351 00:15:07,969 --> 00:15:06,029 savings much more yes while Geico could 352 00:15:10,549 --> 00:15:07,979 help you rack up more moolah faster than 353 00:15:12,199 --> 00:15:10,559 you can say metamorphosis they've also 354 00:15:14,329 --> 00:15:12,209 been the fastest growing auto insurer 355 00:15:14,539 --> 00:15:14,339 for more than 10 years that's more like 356 00:15:16,609 --> 00:15:14,549 it 357 00:15:18,439 --> 00:15:16,619 furthermore Geico has fast and friendly 358 00:15:21,199 --> 00:15:18,449 claims service that might seem like an 359 00:15:23,269 --> 00:15:21,209 oxymoron but it's not all the more 360 00:15:24,290 --> 00:15:23,279 reason to say no other auto insurer has 361 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:24,300 more and more 362 00:15:29,690 --> 00:15:26,970 dico dico expect great savings and a 363 00:15:33,830 --> 00:15:29,700 whole lot more deeply that this was 364 00:15:36,830 --> 00:15:33,840 extraterrestrial you know it'd be hard 365 00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:36,840 to tie it to one specific thing just 366 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:38,910 that all the evidence all the research 367 00:15:44,540 --> 00:15:41,450 everything pointed in this one direction 368 00:15:46,670 --> 00:15:44,550 the kind of material it was that the 369 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:46,680 kind of technology like my grandfather 370 00:15:51,500 --> 00:15:48,330 said in the last few days of his life 371 00:15:53,690 --> 00:15:51,510 that that even today these materials 372 00:15:56,630 --> 00:15:53,700 don't exist that I was handling back in 373 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:56,640 1947 you know it ain't that was kind of 374 00:16:01,280 --> 00:15:58,290 you know kind of a big thing you know 375 00:16:01,700 --> 00:16:01,290 was like a a liquid type metal it you 376 00:16:03,710 --> 00:16:01,710 know 377 00:16:06,230 --> 00:16:03,720 just certain things that just even today 378 00:16:08,690 --> 00:16:06,240 we don't have and he was you know 379 00:16:12,170 --> 00:16:08,700 obviously it touched his life deeply in 380 00:16:13,610 --> 00:16:12,180 my father's uh honestly at the end of my 381 00:16:15,410 --> 00:16:13,620 grandfather's life it wasn't the biggest 382 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:15,420 thing in his life his he liked almost 383 00:16:20,210 --> 00:16:18,030 LSU football he liked Washington game on 384 00:16:20,450 --> 00:16:20,220 Sundays you know he you need led a full 385 00:16:22,430 --> 00:16:20,460 life 386 00:16:26,510 --> 00:16:22,440 and and this was just part of it but I 387 00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:26,520 you know it's the the the biggest you 388 00:16:32,810 --> 00:16:30,240 know family portion is basically is that 389 00:16:34,910 --> 00:16:32,820 they were devout in their beliefs and 390 00:16:37,790 --> 00:16:34,920 they had the reputation to back it up 391 00:16:40,250 --> 00:16:37,800 what they saw was not from here yes and 392 00:16:42,140 --> 00:16:40,260 and that speaks to the overall take on 393 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:42,150 their place within the community you 394 00:16:46,580 --> 00:16:45,210 know of the fact that to to cover up 395 00:16:49,340 --> 00:16:46,590 something that they for instance were 396 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:49,350 aware of for all those years is through 397 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:51,570 those generations it's just out of their 398 00:16:56,540 --> 00:16:54,570 character out of their nature right it's 399 00:16:59,150 --> 00:16:56,550 just I guess again it simply does not 400 00:17:00,470 --> 00:16:59,160 make sense that first of all would they 401 00:17:03,260 --> 00:17:00,480 would they have dragged their grandkids 402 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:03,270 into it yeah and then their great ground 403 00:17:07,910 --> 00:17:05,370 I might you know my father's my two kids 404 00:17:11,420 --> 00:17:07,920 with with with that you know this this 405 00:17:13,370 --> 00:17:11,430 generational extension this this tale is 406 00:17:15,140 --> 00:17:13,380 this falling through our through our our 407 00:17:16,910 --> 00:17:15,150 family and of course the worldwide so 408 00:17:18,650 --> 00:17:16,920 that matter but it's I guess it just 409 00:17:20,660 --> 00:17:18,660 doesn't make sense there would be 410 00:17:22,070 --> 00:17:20,670 there'd be nothing to gain and if 411 00:17:23,450 --> 00:17:22,080 anything there's everything to lose by 412 00:17:25,310 --> 00:17:23,460 because you know they had to put 413 00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:25,320 themselves out there this is not the 414 00:17:29,450 --> 00:17:27,270 norm this is not we find that this you 415 00:17:31,550 --> 00:17:29,460 know unbeknownst to me growing up I 416 00:17:33,170 --> 00:17:31,560 thought it was the norm but the reality 417 00:17:35,420 --> 00:17:33,180 was that this was not the norm that 418 00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:35,430 society did not in general to leave and 419 00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:37,900 the sort of thing that there was 420 00:17:44,549 --> 00:17:40,960 and write it in speculation and you know 421 00:17:47,340 --> 00:17:44,559 that snicker factor this is it just 422 00:17:49,140 --> 00:17:47,350 persisted you know a treating us as not 423 00:17:52,130 --> 00:17:49,150 a topic you know treating it it's not 424 00:17:54,540 --> 00:17:52,140 just non science but nonsense yeah 425 00:17:58,740 --> 00:17:54,550 honestly you know the government did a 426 00:18:00,299 --> 00:17:58,750 very good job they they they you know 427 00:18:01,710 --> 00:18:00,309 put down the story they said it was this 428 00:18:02,970 --> 00:18:01,720 rollin target they said it was weather 429 00:18:05,790 --> 00:18:02,980 balloons they said all these different 430 00:18:08,220 --> 00:18:05,800 things and they that the media stepped 431 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:08,230 in line and did their work for them at 432 00:18:13,020 --> 00:18:09,970 that point it's basically if you believe 433 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:13,030 in anything other than the basic facts 434 00:18:18,060 --> 00:18:15,790 of humanity that we exist on a planet in 435 00:18:19,919 --> 00:18:18,070 isolation I suppose you were a fool 436 00:18:21,870 --> 00:18:19,929 there was something to be laughed at or 437 00:18:23,580 --> 00:18:21,880 made fun of and that's what it was 438 00:18:26,610 --> 00:18:23,590 perceived of course that has changed at 439 00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:26,620 this point but it has and and I think 440 00:18:30,750 --> 00:18:28,240 it's continuing to change where 441 00:18:33,450 --> 00:18:30,760 everybody is ready a cable television 442 00:18:35,460 --> 00:18:33,460 has contributed a lot with informational 443 00:18:38,970 --> 00:18:35,470 shows some of which are credible you 444 00:18:41,540 --> 00:18:38,980 know alien hunters ancient aliens etc a 445 00:18:44,220 --> 00:18:41,550 lot of it is just sort of I think the 446 00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:44,230 marginalization factor has has been 447 00:18:48,930 --> 00:18:46,960 reduced people I think are becoming a 448 00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:48,940 little bit more open to talking about 449 00:18:54,510 --> 00:18:51,760 such and and let's fast forward into the 450 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:54,520 future we're coming up on Roswell 451 00:18:59,910 --> 00:18:57,370 anniversary yes that's gonna be exciting 452 00:19:01,650 --> 00:18:59,920 just hit days away I can't say I'm a 453 00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:01,660 little bit nervous it's going to be a I 454 00:19:05,730 --> 00:19:03,280 think they're looking at the 70th 455 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:05,740 anniversary being one the bigger you 456 00:19:09,150 --> 00:19:06,970 know that they're bigger festivals 457 00:19:12,990 --> 00:19:09,160 they've ever had so I'm looking forward 458 00:19:14,910 --> 00:19:13,000 to it I I'm going to speak to what a 459 00:19:18,750 --> 00:19:14,920 couple speeches one of them is going to 460 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:18,760 be one of my father sayings is titled I 461 00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:21,730 know what I saw and he that's that's 462 00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:22,960 what he told us at that's when we grew 463 00:19:26,340 --> 00:19:24,040 up that's kind of what he said I know 464 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:26,350 what I saw and it's going to be a person 465 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:29,170 to his perspective you know it's 466 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:30,730 unfortunately he's not here to give it 467 00:19:34,590 --> 00:19:32,170 himself of course but yeah I'm gonna 468 00:19:37,950 --> 00:19:34,600 give the perspective from his eyes of 469 00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:37,960 what he saw and how he how he lived a 470 00:19:43,890 --> 00:19:42,160 life of of being of somewhat of a public 471 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:43,900 figure being a medical doctor being a 472 00:19:48,300 --> 00:19:45,910 colonel in the military and yet he was 473 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:48,310 very closely tied to Roswell and then 474 00:19:52,050 --> 00:19:50,850 the second one is going to be just 475 00:19:54,210 --> 00:19:52,060 generations 476 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:54,220 going to be about how this story has 477 00:19:58,890 --> 00:19:56,170 traveled down from my grandfather father 478 00:20:02,400 --> 00:19:58,900 me and now to my kids and into their 479 00:20:03,540 --> 00:20:02,410 schools and out of the world so growing 480 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:03,550 up Roswell 481 00:20:08,730 --> 00:20:05,770 what's the date for this when will you 482 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:08,740 be speaking Saturday and Sunday I think 483 00:20:13,470 --> 00:20:10,570 it's the second and third if I'm correct 484 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:13,480 right right I think so right that's 485 00:20:18,530 --> 00:20:15,250 that's going to be something and I guess 486 00:20:22,380 --> 00:20:18,540 there's been a revamping sort of a 487 00:20:24,270 --> 00:20:22,390 updating of the UFO museum there yeah 488 00:20:29,970 --> 00:20:24,280 they've been doing things that there was 489 00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:29,980 there's a Jesse Marcel section yeah our 490 00:20:33,330 --> 00:20:31,840 family would be the ones to put you know 491 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:33,340 give them items to put in there Oh 492 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:35,290 somebody said something in that area 493 00:20:39,060 --> 00:20:37,330 that wasn't from us but I I'm not 494 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:39,070 familiar of any changes in that 495 00:20:43,380 --> 00:20:40,450 directory but I know they have in a 496 00:20:45,630 --> 00:20:43,390 revamping they've been amazing and it's 497 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:45,640 it should be really interesting I you 498 00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:48,250 have to take the whole experience in a 499 00:20:53,130 --> 00:20:50,460 couple of ways there's some very serious 500 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:53,140 speakers there no question about it some 501 00:20:57,570 --> 00:20:55,930 some great information to be learned you 502 00:20:59,280 --> 00:20:57,580 know new information nicely about 503 00:21:01,200 --> 00:20:59,290 Roswell not just the state of where 504 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:01,210 things are in our belief structure yes 505 00:21:06,060 --> 00:21:03,250 and then there is the entertainment area 506 00:21:08,730 --> 00:21:06,070 where you know just love the the parades 507 00:21:12,150 --> 00:21:08,740 and and the rest of it right now is like 508 00:21:16,110 --> 00:21:12,160 the music just the festive experience 509 00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:16,120 and just people in generally in general 510 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:18,870 you know embracing this this whole idea 511 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:21,370 so it'll be a lot of fun at about a 512 00:21:25,770 --> 00:21:23,770 hundred and seven degrees oh my gosh 513 00:21:27,660 --> 00:21:25,780 will pray for I don't know some sort of 514 00:21:29,790 --> 00:21:27,670 cloud cover perhaps to clear we go the 515 00:21:32,550 --> 00:21:29,800 full brunt of the Sun off of you now now 516 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:32,560 you are doing something with veterans is 517 00:21:39,660 --> 00:21:36,370 that correct yeah I just in my my 518 00:21:43,020 --> 00:21:39,670 different travels I like to work with 519 00:21:43,980 --> 00:21:43,030 the the military possibly I wasn't 520 00:21:48,090 --> 00:21:43,990 personally in the military my 521 00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:48,100 grandfather obviously were and I I had 522 00:21:51,930 --> 00:21:49,600 designed a piece of jewelry so I'm 523 00:21:54,750 --> 00:21:51,940 basically a little cuff that has the 524 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:54,760 symbols from Roswell embossed on it and 525 00:21:59,880 --> 00:21:56,770 well I was doing some speaking in 526 00:22:02,370 --> 00:21:59,890 Argentine I was in Brazil and Uruguay 527 00:22:04,380 --> 00:22:02,380 and I had made a few of them just out of 528 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:04,390 pewter on my home stove and you know 529 00:22:08,190 --> 00:22:05,590 made then you 530 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:08,200 kind of fun gave them to some heads of 531 00:22:13,710 --> 00:22:10,090 military and that sort of thing in those 532 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:13,720 countries and huge fascinating it was 533 00:22:17,789 --> 00:22:15,130 it's it's it's it's just really easy 534 00:22:19,140 --> 00:22:17,799 work with studying on the internet 535 00:22:21,269 --> 00:22:19,150 what's what's the tech what's a meddler 536 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:21,279 you know it melted a little temperature 537 00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:22,570 you can actually melt it on your stove 538 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:26,080 and design some design some molds and 539 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:28,330 did that sort of thing and then in a 540 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:31,690 meeting with some other people there 541 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:35,650 there's a company's developing a just 542 00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:39,130 put it out it's a brand called m47 which 543 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:40,960 is basically just you know I write books 544 00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:43,570 and documentaries and you know that sort 545 00:22:47,639 --> 00:22:45,700 of thing and the and I've been 546 00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:47,649 approached to go to build a brand around 547 00:22:52,529 --> 00:22:50,710 that's interesting okay I'm busy doing a 548 00:22:54,060 --> 00:22:52,539 lot of the other the actual either 549 00:22:56,370 --> 00:22:54,070 writing or speaking and that kind of 550 00:22:58,139 --> 00:22:56,380 thing and and and and I thought that's 551 00:22:59,580 --> 00:22:58,149 fine and I showed them one of the 552 00:23:01,740 --> 00:22:59,590 bracelets that I had or one of the cuffs 553 00:23:05,010 --> 00:23:01,750 that I had made and they went crazy over 554 00:23:09,930 --> 00:23:05,020 it and these folks are also tied into a 555 00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:09,940 vets organization and we met with them 556 00:23:14,970 --> 00:23:11,289 and they looked at this as an 557 00:23:18,389 --> 00:23:14,980 opportunity to to not only possibly give 558 00:23:21,779 --> 00:23:18,399 some vets jobs and foundry work in metal 559 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:21,789 you know metal work but also to create a 560 00:23:26,610 --> 00:23:23,890 to create a product in essence and help 561 00:23:29,340 --> 00:23:26,620 support their endeavors so we joined and 562 00:23:31,470 --> 00:23:29,350 now we're working on and making these 563 00:23:35,639 --> 00:23:31,480 cuffs and make him out of pewter and 564 00:23:38,779 --> 00:23:35,649 copper now and there if anybody wants to 565 00:23:43,409 --> 00:23:38,789 go take a look there's a website called 566 00:23:45,659 --> 00:23:43,419 veterans foundry comm veterans foundry 567 00:23:47,279 --> 00:23:45,669 dot-com yeah that's gonna that's gonna 568 00:23:49,260 --> 00:23:47,289 have some basic information and and and 569 00:23:51,210 --> 00:23:49,270 and the cough State they do more than 570 00:23:52,769 --> 00:23:51,220 that they make little emblems for 571 00:23:54,090 --> 00:23:52,779 different areas in the military 572 00:23:56,940 --> 00:23:54,100 different type branches that kind of 573 00:23:59,279 --> 00:23:56,950 thing so I'm helping develop that and I 574 00:24:01,529 --> 00:23:59,289 love the fact that that's got this 575 00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:01,539 incredible loop around to your 576 00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:03,760 grandfathers and fathers military 577 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:06,640 connection I'm sure you do 578 00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:09,370 IIIi like it and there I you know and 579 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:11,230 sheepishly whatever you want to call it 580 00:24:15,270 --> 00:24:13,330 I liked it the military was the ones 581 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:15,280 that put the boots down and stop this 582 00:24:19,270 --> 00:24:17,890 story and here we are back in the and 583 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:19,280 people in the military are coming 584 00:24:26,530 --> 00:24:22,970 back in help us helping us create these 585 00:24:28,750 --> 00:24:26,540 mementos these items that are based on 586 00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:28,760 that same story and it's and it's going 587 00:24:33,670 --> 00:24:30,980 to be helping vets out so it's it's it's 588 00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:33,680 it's it's been a lot of fun I I also 589 00:24:39,580 --> 00:24:36,860 work with and another part of the 590 00:24:40,570 --> 00:24:39,590 company is coming called Tracy Jewelers 591 00:24:42,610 --> 00:24:40,580 they're a Joey couple they have been 592 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:42,620 around since the 40s and they're making 593 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:43,730 these calcium 594 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:48,290 you know gold and silver and jewels Wow 595 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:49,730 they're all they're busy doing that at 596 00:24:54,340 --> 00:24:51,500 that's and that's we did that that's 597 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:54,350 called cypher jewelers calm but and 598 00:24:58,420 --> 00:24:56,090 that's they're taking off that's that's 599 00:25:00,280 --> 00:24:58,430 all fine and well but that working with 600 00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:00,290 the the working with the vets on these 601 00:25:04,780 --> 00:25:02,960 actually the copper and the pewter cuffs 602 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:04,790 are kind of fun we're also working to 603 00:25:09,330 --> 00:25:06,410 stay tuned to Mexico getting them what's 604 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:09,340 called in Mexico true so that they're 605 00:25:18,250 --> 00:25:12,050 certified as a product that New Mexico 606 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:18,260 is going to stand behind its statement 607 00:25:22,660 --> 00:25:21,050 oh yeah journey exactly we're just about 608 00:25:24,490 --> 00:25:22,670 coming to the end of our journey do you 609 00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:24,500 have a specific website or something you 610 00:25:30,610 --> 00:25:27,230 want to throw out to our listeners well 611 00:25:34,060 --> 00:25:30,620 if you want to follow me I am I do have 612 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:34,070 Jesse Marcel comm and it's and there 613 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:35,570 there's information about some of the 614 00:25:39,010 --> 00:25:37,610 speaking events I do on that but what 615 00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:39,020 I'm really proud of right now is I have 616 00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:44,030 all these websites abstract site.com and 617 00:25:48,790 --> 00:25:46,790 that is I'm in writing I'm working in a 618 00:25:50,650 --> 00:25:48,800 couple of feature films and and 619 00:25:51,970 --> 00:25:50,660 different documentaries that kind of 620 00:25:53,980 --> 00:25:51,980 thing stuff they go if anybody wants to 621 00:25:56,380 --> 00:25:53,990 kind of follow along you can look there 622 00:25:58,450 --> 00:25:56,390 and see what I'm up to so fantastic we 623 00:26:01,240 --> 00:25:58,460 will definitely keep all you gentle 624 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:01,250 listeners posted on the journey of Jesse 625 00:26:05,740 --> 00:26:03,710 Marcel thank you so much for joining us 626 00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:05,750 this really has been extraordinary kind 627 00:26:10,690 --> 00:26:08,000 of an exclusive here on off the beaten 628 00:26:13,660 --> 00:26:10,700 path for UFO headline news at inception 629 00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:13,670 radio network thanks Jesse thank you 630 00:26:18,940 --> 00:26:16,460 well we've had an opportunity to get up 631 00:26:21,540 --> 00:26:18,950 close and personal with Jesse Marcel 632 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:21,550 today as we went off the beaten path 633 00:26:28,690 --> 00:26:25,250 there are so many things aspects in this 634 00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:28,700 story critical factors and not just the 635 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:30,950 news headlines of the day which were 636 00:26:34,930 --> 00:26:32,570 quickly withdrawn and 637 00:26:37,210 --> 00:26:34,940 other stuff was published we have things 638 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:37,220 like photo analysis what was going on 639 00:26:41,170 --> 00:26:39,050 politically in the United States and 640 00:26:44,260 --> 00:26:41,180 then something that even approximates 641 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:44,270 deathbed confessions both Jesse's 642 00:26:49,090 --> 00:26:46,850 grandfather and father absolutely 643 00:26:52,750 --> 00:26:49,100 maintained their steadfast take on this 644 00:26:55,030 --> 00:26:52,760 until the day they died there was that 645 00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:55,040 sequence of events triggered by the 646 00:27:01,150 --> 00:26:57,200 crash in July of 1947 647 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:01,160 and of course the proximity to area 51 648 00:27:07,420 --> 00:27:03,530 is definitely in the picture you know a 649 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:07,430 lot more about that but area 51 being a 650 00:27:12,910 --> 00:27:10,640 military installation definitely their 651 00:27:15,910 --> 00:27:12,920 spin their take is what we heard the 652 00:27:19,540 --> 00:27:15,920 most of I suppose the question would 653 00:27:22,150 --> 00:27:19,550 remain what would this do in shall we 654 00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:22,160 say the court of public opinion the 655 00:27:25,270 --> 00:27:23,150 conspiracies 656 00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:25,280 well the headlines around those 657 00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:27,710 certainly are well read and noted by all 658 00:27:33,490 --> 00:27:30,260 you gentle listeners we had a witness 659 00:27:37,930 --> 00:27:33,500 today well a witness to the legacy of 660 00:27:40,390 --> 00:27:37,940 Roswell fascinating he grew up Roswell 661 00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:40,400 all the stories all the anecdotes dinner 662 00:27:46,330 --> 00:27:43,750 table fishing trip fireside stories and 663 00:27:48,970 --> 00:27:46,340 looking at things differently with a 664 00:27:53,740 --> 00:27:48,980 more open mind well we have the likes of 665 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:53,750 Jesse Marcel and this begs the question 666 00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:56,690 how would this hold up today if this 667 00:28:02,740 --> 00:27:59,840 story just happens to say this July for 668 00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:02,750 the first time at first blush obviously 669 00:28:08,830 --> 00:28:05,320 social media would be all over it and 670 00:28:11,410 --> 00:28:08,840 then what happened that's where it would 671 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:11,420 become critical as we've been covering 672 00:28:16,450 --> 00:28:13,730 the UFO headline news here at inception 673 00:28:20,050 --> 00:28:16,460 radio network how many years now time 674 00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:20,060 flies and time is a human construct but 675 00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:21,440 into the bargain 676 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:24,380 we seem to have come across definitely 677 00:28:30,370 --> 00:28:27,530 many stories taking place in the United 678 00:28:33,310 --> 00:28:30,380 States Southwest the very area that 679 00:28:36,010 --> 00:28:33,320 holds Roswell New Mexico it was the site 680 00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:36,020 for all kinds of early nuclear testing 681 00:28:41,230 --> 00:28:38,720 could that play a part bringing this 682 00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:41,240 into them now there are still stories 683 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:44,600 coming out of that area just last week a 684 00:28:48,169 --> 00:28:45,690 young man a 685 00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:48,179 resident of Anthony New Mexico captured 686 00:28:53,749 --> 00:28:51,600 something on video he was in a car as a 687 00:28:55,399 --> 00:28:53,759 passenger as his mother drove his 688 00:28:58,580 --> 00:28:55,409 purpose that evening was simply to 689 00:29:01,490 --> 00:28:58,590 capture content for his business and add 690 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:01,500 it to his website but something else was 691 00:29:05,299 --> 00:29:03,450 in the bargain something else in the 692 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:05,309 picture it made the rounds of all the 693 00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:08,850 usual suspects online so today 694 00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:12,179 how would Roswell play out it's your 695 00:29:17,330 --> 00:29:14,159 decision gentle listener lots of 696 00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:17,340 research has to go into all of that 697 00:29:24,649 --> 00:29:21,840 lots of critical discernment so we 698 00:29:27,139 --> 00:29:24,659 talked with Jesse Marcel today who has 699 00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:27,149 definitely an interesting perspective an 700 00:29:33,499 --> 00:29:30,779 up-close-and-personal for sure of what 701 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:33,509 it was like to grow up Roswell we hope 702 00:29:38,690 --> 00:29:36,450 you enjoyed it can definitely be yours 703 00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:38,700 to sleuth around on the internet find 704 00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:41,840 out information make your own position 705 00:29:47,450 --> 00:29:44,700 thank you for joining us here on UFO 706 00:29:50,180 --> 00:29:47,460 headline news you can follow this 707 00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:50,190 broadcast later at UF o headline news 708 00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:52,799 dot-com take care of each other we are 709 00:29:57,070 --> 00:29:55,470 all in this together this is Carol Carl